Well... I am still building custom features for things like CFish and COOP. Yet that does not mean ColdFusion is not ripe for the picking. I am very impressed with all they have done in this release. They enhanced and added so many features it promises to be a player on many new solutions. Now there are still things they can do to make it better than great... but it is certainly a GREAT solution IMO.
One project I worked in the past had a lot of business logic on database objects, primarily stored procedures mostly because of the performance benefits. I have payed with hibernate and love how fast it allows me to develop, but I often wonder if the fast development comes at the cost of performance. If we were to build say a reporting application using Hibernate and second version using store procedures which will perform better? More importantly is there any value in doing things the hard way anymore? I have not tested this, but I think SPs should still perform better, what do you guys think?
If by reporting application you mean something that compiles aggregate data and puts it into a nice visual format, then Hibernate will likely perform very poorly. That is not what Hibernate is for. In those cases you are MUCH better off using ColdFusion queries or stored procedures.
Thanks Chris & Miguel. It looks to me from looking at the documentation for Master Pages in .NET that they do basically what frameworks do in ColdFusion. I'd check out any major CF framework - Fusebox, ColdBox, Mach-II, Model-Glue, CF on Wheels, the onTap framework or COOP. Some more than others. ColdBox the onTap framework and I think Wheels have specific "layouts" features, but if you talk to anyone in the Mach-II or Model-Glue communities, they have their own ways of implementing layouts as well. If you're not familiar with frameworks yet, I wrote an article a little while ago where I converted Ray Camden's Galleon forums to several different frameworks simultaneously and shows that all the frameworks are mostly very similar. http://on.tapogee.com/galleonproject/ At some point hopefully I can add Wheels and COOP in there.
"This is NOT a message from Adobe! Where did Nick get that erroneous information?
Some Indian CF dev posted it on LinkedIn (quoted exactly as above) as a message from Adobe so maybe Nick got it from there and wasn't paying attention?
"So the answer when Adobe would dump ColdFusion the same way they did Fireworks last week, Flash last year and progressively every otherproduct they got from Macromedia - is soon.
When will they get to the last man standing - Dreamweaver or is Muse…"
Dear members, please find below a message from Adobe,==In an effort to assist the ColdFusion community, Adobe, and the larger open source world, a few leaders in the ColdFusion arena have stepped forward to form an open source software development group known as 'Team CF Advance'. The primary purpose of this development group will be to advance ColdFusion applications as an open source solution through development and improvement of open source software solutions combined with social marketing…See More